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    Toshiba A105-S4104 - Hd Sata2 3 Gb/s neste computador

    Olá,

    Gostaria de saber com os amigos se posso adquirir um HD SATA 2 (3 Gb/s) para este notebook e, se correrá tudo bem e funcionará corretamente. Veja as informações:
    • Toshiba Satellite A105-S4104

    Página de suporte
    http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/t...ily=1073768663

    Especificações técnicas
    http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/cont...A105-S4104.pdf
    • HDs 'desejados'

    Western Digital Scorpio Blue (WD3200BEVT)
    320 GB, 3 Gb/s, cache de 8 MB, 5400 RPM
    http://www.wdc.com/pt/products/products.asp?driveid=377

    Samsung Spinpoint M7 (HM320II)
    320 GB, 3 Gb/s, cache de 8 MB, 5400 RPM
    http://www.samsung.com/global/busine...=448&ppmi=1159

    Samsung Spinpoint MU-X (HM320JX)
    320 GB, 3 Gb/s, cache de 8 MB, 5400 RPM
    http://www.samsung.com/global/busine...=396&ppmi=1182

    Seagate Momentus 5400.5 (ST9320320AS)
    320 GB, 3 Gb/s, cache de 8 MB, 5400 RPM
    http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.js...&reqPage=Model

    Seagate Momentus 5400.6 (ST9320325ASG ou ST9320325AS)
    320 GB, 3 Gb/s, cache de 8 MB, 5400 RPM
    http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.js...&reqPage=Model

    Seagate Momentus 5400 FDE.3 (ST9320322AS)
    320 GB, 3 Gb/s, cache de 8 MB, 5400 RPM
    http://www.seagate.com/ww/v/index.js...&reqPage=Model

    Toshiba (MK3255GSX)
    320 GB, 3 Gb/s, cache de 8 MB, 5400 RPM
    http://www.sdd.toshiba.com.tw/produc...&id=P_00000086
    http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/storage/en...c/hdd25/55.htm
    http://www.sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx...MKxx55GSXSpecs

    Toshiba (MK3253GSX)
    320 GB, 3 Gb/s, cache de 8 MB, 5400 RPM
    http://www.sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx...Specifications

    Toshiba (MK3252GSX)
    320 GB, 3 Gb/s, cache de 8 MB, 5400 RPM
    http://www.sdd.toshiba.com.tw/produc...&id=P_00000028
    http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/storage/en...c/hdd25/52.htm
    http://www.sdd.toshiba.com/main.aspx...MKxx52GSXSpecs

    Algum problema em comprar algum destes HDs considerando-se as configurações do notebook (que imagino ser SATA 1 - 1,5Gb/s)?
    Qual destes listado seria o mais indicado?
    O que precisarei fazer para que o HD escolhido funcione corretamente (uma vez instalei um de 500Gb e não funcionou)?
    Valeu galera... Abraço,

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    Mais detalhes

    Estava imaginando fazer o seguinte... Comprar um SATA 2 (3Gb/p) e convertê-lo para SATA 1 (1,5Gb/s).

    Não sei se é possível com HDs 2,5 polegadas. Estes modelos citados estão disponíveis no Paraguai entre R$ 85 e R$ 120.

    Uma vez comprei um Samsung Sata 2 de 500Gb e funcionou apenas numa 'gaveta, enclosure' externa. Instalei como HD externo e funcionou, mas no notebook nem era reconhecido. Então devolvi. Detalhe que não entendia a respeito do tema, então não vi se havia jumpers neste modelo que havia adquirido. Para ser sincero nunca notei jumpers em nenhum modelo de HDs pequenos 2,5"...

    Alguém sabe se algum destes modelos funcionarão para este notebook?
    O que terei de fazer para que funcionem?

    E as dúvidas anteriores persistem...
    Algum problema em comprar algum destes HDs considerando-se as configurações do notebook (que imagino ser SATA 1 - 1,5Gb/s)?
    Qual destes listado seria o mais indicado?
    O que precisarei fazer para que o HD escolhido funcione corretamente (uma vez instalei um de 500Gb e não funcionou)?

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    Ajude =D

    Alguém?

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    Ninguém mais entende do assunto? =D

    Abraço =D

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    Não sei sobre os demais, mas se esses samsung aí seguirem o mesmo esquema dos samsung de desktop atuais, você muda para o modo sata 1 não usando jumper e sim rodando o utilitário desse hd. O chato é que se ele não for reconhecido pelo teu note em modo sata 2, você terá que ligar esse hd em outro note ou mesmo no teu pc atual e, daí, rodar o utilitário e mudar de sata 2 para sata1

    Já o mesmo não posso dizer sobre os outros mas creio que possuam algo parecido para mudar de sata 2 para 1.
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    O suporte da empresa Toshiba não funciona!

    Me desculpem por postar em ingles. Estas foram as respostas que obtive das empresas Western Digital, Seagate e Toshiba. Talvez ajude alguém mais...

    Unfortunately Toshiba Support doesn't work. I already tried it with no luck.

    WD's

    Thank you for contacting Western Digital Customer Service and Support.

    The same principle applies to both desktop and laptop drives. However, I would suggest verifying with the computer manufacturer if the laptop will support this type of arrangement. The reason for this is, that laptop manufacturers are very specific on their systems. But, from WD's point of view, there should be no issue when using a SATA 2 on a SATA 1 port, on a laptop, as long as it is jumpered correctly.
    "However, I would suggest verifying with the computer manufacturer if the laptop will support this type of arrangement. The reason for this is, that laptop manufacturers are very specific on their systems."
    Thank you for your reply.

    From a personal point of view, I would stick with what is currently supported by the computer. I honestly am sorry you have encountered such a predicament with their support. Since the unit currently supports SATA 1, I personally would stick with the same. However, if you are certain that in the future you will need a SATA 2 drive, and would be willing to wing it on this one, I would say that theoretically, you should encounter no issues using a SATA 2 drive on a SATA 1 port as long as it is appropriately jumpered. I'm sorry I am unable to give you a definitive positive answer, but again, computer manufacturers can be incredibly specific when it comes to laptop computers.

    Please let us know if we can be of further assistance.

    Sincerely,
    Johnny H.
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    Henrique,

    You ask :

    1. " I'd like to buy a hard disk to a Toshiba Satellite model A105-S4104. This laptop is SATA 1 compatible (1,5Gb/s). However I’d like to buy a SATA 2 (3Gb/s) HDD and use it on other future machine. I’ve done some research and I know this is possible with desktop machines and HDDs of 3.5”. This is, use a SATA 2 HDD on a SATA 1 compatible desktop. I’ve read this is possible by setting jumpers… Is it possible with laptops? In other words, can I buy a 2.5” SATA 2 HDD to this Toshiba Satellite A105-S4104, and will it work? Are there those jumpers in this kind of 2.5” HDDs?

    Regarding the jumpers; the jumpers for the Momentus models you are interested in, can be set, just as in a 3.5" drive, to 1.5 or 3.0.

    2.Could someone help giving detailed support to this problem? Notebook’s support page http://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/t...ily=1073768663 Notebook’s technical specification http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/cont...A105-S4104.pdf

    Desirable Seagate’s HDD models: Seagate Momentus 5400.5 (ST9320320AS) Seagate Momentus 5400.6 (ST9320325ASG ou ST9320325AS) Seagate Momentus 5400 FDE.3 (ST9320322AS) "


    Laptop computers have 3 main issues to address:

    1) Physical compatibility. Seagate laptop models come in 9.5 mm height, or approximately .374 of an inch. Verify what your computer can support and select a model that meets that maximum height requirement

    2) Addressing capability; Most SATA laptop systems employ a 48-bit addressing system for data transfer between the operating system, BIOS, the system chip sets and the hard drive. 48-bit LBA addressing, increases the drive capacity limit to 144 petabytes. Hardware and software solutions are required from your O/S, BIOS and Chip Sets to enable the 48-bit address feature set. Some laptop BIOS are set with a manufacturers own limitations and contacting the manufacturer regarding maximum drive capacity is recommended.

    3) System compatibility. Some laptop manufacturer's designs were somewhat proprietary and would only work on certain model disc drives. This means the manufacturer had designed a system that has requirements beyond the SATA ANSI standards as determined by the American National Standards Institute, (ANSI) committee. Again, contacting the manufacturer regarding maximum drive capacity is recommended.

    We believe the drives you selected will present no physical problems but you will need to confirm that prior to making your purchase. You will need to contact Toshiba regarding capacity limits. Operation in 1.5 and 3.0 environments is no issue. We have included the specifications of the selected drives for your review.
    And the Great Toshiba Support answered me:

    Dear Sir,

    Thank you for your recent e-mail for Toshiba.

    We sell our HDDs(Hard Disk Drives) only to our OEM customers
    such as PC manufacturers, system integrators, add-on kit makers
    and so on,
    and not sold to end users directly as a single unit.

    After-sales service and support about HDD for end users are
    available directly from our OEM customers(PC manufacturers)
    and their authorized distributors and dealers.

    If you want to replace HDD for your PC, please contact your
    PC manufacturer(Toshiba PC support center in your country/area).

    Please read FAQ
    http://www3.toshiba.co.jp/storage/english/faq/index.htm


    Alguém ou algo mais?

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    Resumindo: você está por sua conta e risco.

    Sugestão: já vi esses samsung de 320gigas para vender naquelas gavetinhas usb. Assim, se não funcionar, fica mais fácil revender ou, pelo menos, tu poderás continuar usando o hd através da usb.

    http://www.samsung.com/global/busine...429&ppmi=1177#

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