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    process guard Vs. softnyx(Inglês)

    a briga começou!!!!!!
    We've been informed by many Gunbound users over the last couple of days who are not happy about the action taken by Softnyx (the company behind Gunbound) asking Process Guard users to uninstall the program before they're allowed to run the game, and indeed it is a very aggressive way to go about things. Let's look at what's happening ...

    On the 10th of September, Softnyx made the following public announcement which is still linked to from their main homepage (note that they've never contacted us):


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    Hello, This is the GIS Team.

    We have worked hard to provide secure security for our users, and we have done that with many different ways.There is an increasing numbers of users using a hack, and we need your help you to prevent the hack. From now on, anyone with 'Process Guard' installed on your computer will not be able to join Gunbound. Either you installed it, or someone else did, your connection to our server will be prohibited if you have that program installed on your computer.
    You must delete the program in order to connect to Gunbound. If you are using 'Process Guard' as a safety feature for your computer, then please choose something else. If you have the program installed on your computer, you will get the following error message.

    The game guard initialization error
    Either try again after rebooting or closing all the other programs which could cause the collision.

    Please take a note of this situation, and hopefully we do not cause you any misunderstandings.

    Thank you,
    Softnyx Co.,Ltd



    ... as you can see, they don't even say why Process Guard is banned, leaving the impression that Process Guard is some type of crackers tool, and you don't even need half a brain to work out that it clearly isn't.

    So, why would a GAME company ban its users simply for using a SECURITY program when the two programs have nothing to do with each other? Let's put aside their announcement for a moment and just look at the facts ...

    GunBound is a game. A game should have nothing to do with interfering with system security which makes their announcement even more surprising, but apparently a lot of crackers target GunBound to try to modify the game to give their user character various advantages, as this simple Google search shows (65000+ results). This is nothing new - software cracking is a huge underground 'industry', and it is virtually impossible to prevent a software program from being cracked - given enough time, anything can be cracked, our software included - nobody is exempt from the laws of the 1's and 0's that we work with. So software developers often add various tricks to prevent cracking, such as anti-debug countermeasures, self-modifying code, packed executables, and so on.

    So what does any of that have to do with Process Guard? Absolutely nothing, but these are the tricks that GunBound tries to use. Let's continue...

    A further brief analysis of GunBound shows that the author of GunBound do not use many of their own protections (and that's fair enough - they're game developers not security experts), but instead are using several 3rd-party protectors, such as a packer made by a hacker called "y0da" and a Korean protection program called nProtect Gameguard (not to be confused with a Symantec/Norton tool of the same name). So that's somewhat ironic, stating to their users "we need your help you to prevent the hack", yet using hackers tools to implement that protection.

    However, many Process Guard users run dozens of programs and games without any problems - this is the first time something like this has ever happened, so what is it about Process Guard that has caused the GunBound author to react the way they did, or what is it about GunBound that makes it so different to normal programs?

    We're not 100% sure yet, it's still early days and we haven't finished our analysis yet, but for some reason if you run GunBound while Process Guard is installed you'll get an error message about GameGuard failing to initialize, which is probably nProtect failing. Because the GunBound author has no control over nProtect (its not his program), he can't modify it to get it to work with Process Guard, so his only other option is to stop using nProtect, which seemingly they don't want to do. Because one of Process Guard's main security roles is to stop processes from being interfered with, it seems crackers are using Process Guard (free and full editions) to prevent nProtect from guarding over the main GunBound.exe, thus bypassing its protection.

    nProtect, y0da's crypter and the various other techniques they use are very trivial to bypass using various other methods, so why bother using them? The protections they've implemented might seem strong to the GunBound author, but in reality they're quite trivial and there are an infinite number of more conventional protection techniques that will actually make GunBound a lot harder to crack, yet without inconveniencing any users by making them turn off system security software just to run a game.

    Thus, it would be in everyone's best interests if GunBound implemented a proper protection scheme rather than using hackers tools which do things they have no understanding or control over. Then the GunBound author would have a more secure and crack-resistant program (which is his main aim), and GunBound users would still be able to maintain the security of their system by leaving kernel protection systems such as Process Guard up. Think back to their first statement - "we have worked hard to provide secure security for our users". Turning off security software obviously does not make you more secure, so it's clear they're putting the security of their program before the security of its users, and in this case it seems they've gone too far.

    We'd be more than happy to help them with a few real protection tricks if they bother to contact us, but this issue must be addressed first.

    Best regards,
    Wayne
    o engraçado é ver no final a process guard se oferecendo para serviços "decentes" para a proteção do GB

    PS: para quem não sabe, a Softnyx impediu os usuários a entrarem no Gunbound com o Process Guard em funcionamento devido a um bug que eu não posso revelar porque não sei.

    PS2: não vou postar a fonte porque não quero ser banido
    PS3: olá mamãe!

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    to cum preguiça de le td isso, ainda mais em ingles.. tem como resumi???

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    Como você deve saber, quem usa o programa process guard é impedido de jogar gunbound, pois descobriram, com o programa, um exploit para GB. Acontece que o CEO da empresa está um pouco revoltado com a atitude da softnyx, que foi, entre outras coisas, desleal. Basicamente ele mete o pau no nProtect, que garante para o gunbound uma defesa ultrapassada, e diz no final que caso a softnyx precise de uma "ajudinha" que peçam para eles, os quais farão um programa que ofereça uma proteção DECENTE para o gunbound

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    Não conheço esse process guard...

    Mas gostei do jeito como o cara falo no texto.. bem educado mas falo na lata que os caras do gunbound não entendem bosta nenhuma de segurança

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