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  1. #1
    Dec 2001

    Mudaram o jogo todo!!!!

    - BETA PATCH 304



    We have made numerous changes to improve the strategic depth of WC3: The
    Frozen Throne. Please try new strategies!


    - Players now start with 500 gold and 150 lumber, down from 750 gold and
    200 lumber.
    - Barracks-equivalents and Altars are much less expensive.
    - Technology structures, in general, cost more lumber, while costing less
    gold. This was part of an effort to make various strategies have a wider
    window of opportunity, as well as to decrease the cost of switching
    - Town Hall-equivalents and the Haunted Gold Mine cost more lumber.
    - Town Hall-equivalent upgrades cost more gold and a lot more lumber.
    - Most upgrades cost more lumber and less gold.
    - Upgrades other than attack/defense upgrades tend to have lower research
    times now.
    - Humans and Undead both have new towers, the Arcane Tower and the Nerubian
    Tower, respectively, which are designed to discourage Hero harassment.
    - Shop hit points have been significantly reduced, as they should be a prime
    target when attacking a base.

    Damage and Combat Hierarchy Changes:

    - Normal damage now does 70% damage to buildings, up from 50%.
    - Heroes now have the aptly-named 'Hero' damage type, which works much
    like Normal damage, except it only does 50% damage against buildings,
    and 100% damage against Light armor. This was done primarily so that
    Heroes no longer strongly counter tier-1 ranged units.
    - Piercing damage now does 200% damage to Heavy armor, up from 150%. This
    change was made to ensure that Archers and other ranged units can
    effectively counter air units.
    - Magic damage now deals 75% damage against Light armor units, as Light
    armor units typically are supposed to counter units that deal Magic
    - Tier-3 melee units now have Medium armor in order to encourage their use,
    and make them more dangerous.
    - Siege units have been significantly improved by increasing their range
    and speed.
    - Heavy air units such as Gryphon Riders and Frost Wyrms now deal Magic
    damage, which makes them very effective against Medium armor units, and not
    so effective against Light armor units, which are supposed to counter them.
    - Air units OTHER than heavy air units have for the most part been
    rebalanced. You may notice different damage values and other
    - All air units now have Heavy armor.

    Experience-Related Changes:

    - Kills made when no Hero is nearby still result in your Heroes' receiving
    experience. If one Hero is nearby, but another is not, only the nearby
    Hero gains experience. This change was made to encourage the use of air
    mobility in harassing an opponent.
    - High-level creeps and units give significantly less experience.
    - High-level creeps have Medium armor now.
    - Low-level Heroes take 30% longer to revive. Heroes of level 4 and higher
    still take the maximum of nearly 2 minutes to revive.
    - Units killed by buildings no longer give experience.


    - (4)BridgeTooNear: Goblin Laboratories are now gold mines. Starting gold
    mines and expansions have reduced gold. Tree circle in middle has thin
    wall of trees instead of thick wall of trees.
    - (4)HailStone: Moved the Tavern out of player's base and replaced with a
    large creep camp. Removed 4 expansion gold mines and replaced them with
    Taverns and creep camps. Beefed up a gold mine.
    - (4)IceFlow: All gold mines have been reduced.
    - (4)Islands: Changed creep camps at Goblin Shipyards.
    - (4)Tanaris: Middle is now a gold mine. Made creep camps stronger at
    Laboratory and gold mines. Ripped out the medium-sized creep camps. All
    gold mines reduced slightly.
    - (4)Turtle Rock: Starting gold mines reduced slightly. Tertiary gold mines
    reduced significantly.
    - (4)WhirlWind: Removed Mercenary Camps and some creep camps. Replaced with
    high ground, a Tavern, and a strong creep camp.
    - (6)WheelofChaos: One Goblin Laboratory replaced by a Marketplace. All
    Marketplaces around the outside became Goblin Laboratories. Gold mine and
    Laboratory islands are now connected. Island gold mine creep camps are now
    - (6)StranglethornVale: Starting gold mines are reduced. Mercenary Camps
    are now gold mines with strong creep camps. Neutral buildings altered in
    the middle of the map.

    Item Changes:

    - Clarity Potions, Healing Salves, and Scrolls of Regeneration all have
    their effects dispelled when units under their influence attack, are
    attacked, cast a spell, or are hit by a spell which does damage.
    - Circlet of Nobility price increased to 175 from 125.
    - Potion of Lesser Invulnerability now costs 150, up from 100.
    - Crystal Ball now has unlimited charges, but a 60-second cooldown. It is
    also now a level-5 permanent item instead of a level-2 charged item.
    - Staff of Teleportation now costs 100 gold, down from 200, and no longer
    randomly drops.
    - Orbs no longer cause melee Heroes to deal double damage.
    - Adjusted the level of several items.

    Human Changes:

    - Gyrocopters can now benefit from the new Flak Cannons upgrade, which gives
    their air-to-air attack splash damage.
    - Gyrocopters have been rebalanced as 1 food units.
    - Mortar Teams can now benefit from the Fragmentation Shards upgrade, which
    allows them to do increased damage against units.
    - Knights adjusted to have a higher damage output, while being the same
    overall strength.
    - Spell Breakers now have the Feedback ability, which causes their attacks
    to remove up to 10 mana from their target. Each point so removed causes
    1 point of damage to the target.
    - Spell Steal no longer requires an upgrade to use.
    - Spell Breakers now have the Control Magic ability, which allows them to
    charm enemy summoned units. The spell's cost is relative to the hit points
    of the target. Control Magic requires the Control Magic upgrade.
    - Blood Mages no longer have the Mana Shield ability, but have gained the
    Siphon Mana ability, which is similar to the Dark Ranger's Life Drain,
    except it drains mana instead of life from the target.
    - Banish can now be cast on oneself, and slows its target by 66%.
    - Banished units, by virtue of being ethereal, now take double damage from
    Magic and spell attacks. The Sorceress' attack, Storm Bolt, and Flame Strike
    are all examples of spells that are doubled in damage by Banish.
    - Mark of Fire no longer requires a unit to create--just the spell.
    - Dragonhawk Riders now benefit from the Animal War Training upgrade.
    - Flame Strike now costs 150 mana to cast, up from 125.
    - Flame Strike initial damage/sec reduced to 35/65/90 by level from 45/75/105.
    - A bug with Flame Strike was fixed. Now it effectively deals 33%
    more damage against units. This means that its values have
    effectively been changed to 45/85/120 damage/sec by level.
    - War Engine rockets now deal 25 damage down from 75, and have had a range
    increase to 500 from 400. Additionally, up to 10 rockets can be fired at
    once, up from 3.
    - Human Shop no longer sells Scroll of Speed.
    - Scout Towers now cost 30/20, down from 70/20.
    - Guard Towers now have Light armor, take less time to build, and cost 80/60,
    down from 120/60.

    Undead Changes:

    - Black Sphinx now has the Absorb Mana ability.
    - Abominations now have the Cannibalize ability, which works much like the
    Ghoul Cannibalize ability, except 1 corpse will not always fully heal an
    - When units Cannibalize, the most injured units do so first.
    - Obsidian Statues have been significantly changed. They now have only two
    abilities: Spirit Touch and Replenish Life. They are auto-cast area-of-
    effect mana and health restores which do not stack with other spells of
    the same type. Two Sphinxes replenishing mana do not do so faster than 1.
    Note that Statues no longer have Aura of Blight, Absorb Mana, or Replenish
    - Obsidian Statues are once again 3 food in addition to now having 800 hit
    points, being able to attack, and having medium armor.
    - Black Sphinxes now lose 3 mana per second.
    - Devour Magic radius reduced to 250 from 400, but cooldown reduced to 6
    from 12.
    - The Meat Wagon's corpse-carrying capability has been improved. Cannibalize
    and Raise Dead will automatically use corpses in a Meat Wagon as if the
    corpses were on the ground.
    - Shade speed increased to 350 from 270, but hit points reduced to 125 from
    - Scroll of Speed now sold on Tomb of Wonders if a Black Citadel is built.
    - A Graveyard is once again required to make Spirit Towers.
    - Halls of the Dead hit points reduced to 1750 from 2000.
    - Black Citadel hit points reduced to 2000 from 2300.

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  3. #2
    Autor do tópico
    Dec 2001

    Orc Changes:

    - Catapults now have the Naphtha upgrade, which allows Catapults to cause
    an incendiary effect after hitting a target, causing damage to nearby
    buildings and units over time
    - Level-1 Serpent Ward now has 75 hit points, down from 135.
    - Ethereal Spirit Walker hit points increased to 500 from 350.
    - Spirit Walkers in ethereal form take double damage from Magic and spell
    attacks. The Sorceress' attack, Storm Bolt and Flame Strike are all
    examples of spells that do double damage against ethereal Spirit Walkers.
    - Disenchant radius reduced to 200 from 400, but mana cost reduced to 50
    from 125, and cooldown reduced to 0 from 3.
    - Wand of Neutralization now affects 8 targets per use, up from 5.
    - Watch Towers now have Light armor, build more quickly, and cost 110/80
    down from 155/80.
    - Reinforced Burrows upgrade is now called "Reinforced Defenses". It also
    costs 50/200, as opposed to 125/75, and now takes 60 seconds to research,
    up from 45 seconds. It gives Fortified armor to both Watch Towers and
    - Liquid Fire damage/sec reduced to 5/sec from 10/sec temporarily.
    - Batrider attack now deals 1d4 + 18 damage, down from 1d5 + 22. This is
    a temporary change.

    Night Elf Changes:

    - Mana Burn cooldown is now 7/6/5 seconds by level, down from 7/7/7 seconds
    by level.
    - Mana Flare damage cooldown reduced to .75 from 1.5.
    - Shadow Strike now affects air units.
    - Wisps now move speed 270, up from 220.
    - Tranquility cooldown reduced to 60 from 120.
    - Tranquility mana cost reduced to 125 from 200.
    - Ancients now have Medium armor instead of Heavy armor when uprooted.
    - Mountain Giant Hardened Skin now subtracts 15 damage from every attack,
    down from 20.
    - Spirit of Vengeance has been reworked. You can summon the Spirit of
    Vengeance regardless of whether there are corpses nearby. The SoV will
    raise invulnerable Spirits from nearby friendly corpses to fight for you.
    These Spirits will dissipate if the SoV dies, or if their summon time
    - Treants (summoned by Force of Nature) now benefit from Nature's Blessing.
    - Anti-magic Potion now requires Ancient of Eternity to purchase.
    - Clarity Potion no longer sold on Ancient of Wonders.

    Neutral Heroes and Units:

    - You can now buy the Pandaren Brewmaster and Naga Sea Witch from the
    Tavern. Check the bottom of this readme for full details on their
    - Silence range increased to 900 from 700 to allow for easier use.
    - Level-2 and level-3 Black Arrow now create the same Dark Minions as
    level-1 Black Arrow.
    - Black Arrow damage bonus changed from 5/10/15 to 2/10/20.
    - Black Arrow now works on high-level creeps.
    - Charm now works on creeps of level 5 or lower, down from 6 or lower.
    - Charm mana cost increased to 150 from 125.
    - Neutral Heroes are not as quickly available for hire as before.
    - Marketplaces have been greatly changed. In no particular order: each
    Marketplace has its own stock of items; every 30 seconds, a new item is
    added; Marketplaces remove items once they are purchased; Marketplaces
    don't stock items until 2 minutes into the game.
    - Mercenary camps have a number of new creeps seeking to be soldiers of
    fortune! Be sure to check them out!
    - Creeps sold at Mercenary Camps and Goblin Laboratories are often
    available much earlier than before. Some are available as early as
    60 seconds into the game (down from 440 seconds previously)!


    - Second and third Heroes no longer start with Scrolls of Town Portal.
    - The allied minimap color filter now has a third state: minimap only. In
    this state, units on the main screen will have their own particular
    player's color, while units in the minimap will be color coded according
    to their team.
    - Group-selected buildings now distribute orders properly. For instance,
    if you tell two Barracks to research several upgrades and build several
    units at the same time, the orders are distributed between them equally.
    - Ethereal units take double damage from spell damage and Magic damage.
    - All Backpack upgrades now cost 50/25, down from 75/25.

    Neutral Hero Abilities:

    Pandaren Brewmaster
    * Drunken Haze – Causes the target to become extremely drunk, causing it
    to move slowly and miss attacks.
    * Breath of Fire – The Brewmaster breathes fire in a short-ranged cone shape,
    causing damage to both air units and ground units in the area of effect.
    Units which were under the effects of Drunken Haze are set aflame and take
    significant damage over time.
    * Drunken Brawler – Exactly like Evasion.
    * Storm, Earth, and Fire – The Brewmaster splits into three mini-pandas:
    Storm, Earth, and Fire. Each is a formidable fighter in its own right,
    and possesses at least one ability. All have the Resistant Skin ability.
    After the spell duration ends, if any one of the pandas is still alive,
    the Brewmaster reforms.
    - Storm: Can cast Cyclone, level-1 Wind Walk and Dispel Magic. Has a ranged
    - Earth: Magic immune, has extremely high hit points, and possesses the
    Pulverize and Taunt abilities.
    - Fire: Has Permanent Immolation and a strong attack.

    Naga Sea Witch
    * Forked Lightning – Similar to Carrion Swarm. A cone-shaped direct damage
    spell which does fixed damage to a certain number of targets.
    Amount of damage and number of targets go up with level. This spell is
    slightly more powerful than Carrion Swarm, but is also a bit more costly,
    and has a slightly longer cooldown.
    * Mana Shield – This ability is completely reworked version of the Blood
    Mage's old Mana Shield ability. It is now an ability that can be activated
    or deactivated, much like Immolation. When it is activated, damage done to
    the Sea Witch is instead dealt to her mana pool instead of her health.
    * Cold Arrows – Similar to Searing Arrows. Deals bonus damage when turned
    on, and also slows the victim's attack rate and movement rate.
    * Tornado (ultimate) – Creates a randomly moving Tornado in the area of
    effect which causes significant damage to buildings and slows the attack rate
    and move speed of units.

    O jogo ja tinha mudado muito com a exp, mas agora ele terminou de mudar todo!!!!

    PS: que merda de limit para 10000 caracteres por post!! tive q dividir em 2!!!

  4. #3
    Autor do tópico
    Dec 2001

    VLaD Bin Laden (9:20 PM) :
    olha o tantinho de coisa q mudou com a versão nova do war3
    Falcon_br (9:20 PM) :
    tiraram a sorcers mostrando os peitos?
    hehehe, acho massa no war3 quando ela fala:
    -Yes, they are not fake!
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:21 PM) :
    hehe, nem sabia
    Falcon_br (9:21 PM) :
    nossa caralho, quanto coisa!!
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:21 PM) :
    mudaram o jogo todo cara, lê aí
    Falcon_br (9:21 PM) :
    fudeu muito para passar de tier!
    acabou o high tech rush!
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:22 PM) :
    é mesmo, rush rox
    Falcon_br (9:22 PM) :
    novas torres? so para a exp ou para o jogo todo?
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:22 PM) :
    para o jogo todo
    Falcon_br (9:22 PM) :
    q q essas torres fazem?
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:22 PM) :
    não sei ainda
    Falcon_br (9:22 PM) :
    acho q vai ser so pra quem comprar a exp
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:23 PM) :
    mas elas param com a encheção de herói no começo do jogo
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:23 PM) :
    é claro, essas mudançãs são só no FT, o war3 normal está estagnado
    Falcon_br (9:23 PM) :
    hauhuahuauha, 200% de dano pierce em heavy!!!
    ja era abo, cavaleiro, tauren!
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:23 PM) :
    continua lendo
    Falcon_br (9:24 PM) :
    a bom, agora elas tem medium armor!
    q estranho, podiam voltar então para as armaduras do beta!
    air, ranged, melee
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:24 PM) :
    ia dar mó confusão de novo
    Falcon_br (9:26 PM) :
    oxi, q estranho, agora contrução q mata não ganha exp!
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:26 PM) :
    Falcon_br (9:27 PM) :
    oxi, bastão da teleportação poderia ficar pra tras quando usado?
    hehehe, q roxs
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:27 PM) :
    não, não é q nem o nosso bastão hehe
    ele cai de creep q vc matava
    Falcon_br (9:28 PM) :
    a bom, hehehehe
    gyrocopters comendo 1????
    oxi, e causando pierc splash damage!!!!
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:28 PM) :
    é, mas eles são mais fracos
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:28 PM) :
    e tiram menos
    Falcon_br (9:29 PM) :
    mas comendo 1 é sacanegam
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:29 PM) :
    o patch tem 18,7 megas...
    Falcon_br (9:30 PM) :
    tiraram o mana shield do blood mage?
    se tiraram pq é inutil tira o death pact do death knight então!
    Falcon_br (9:30 PM) :
    e o jogo tme 67, hehehe
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:30 PM) :
    o mana shield era inútil mesmo
    Falcon_br (9:30 PM) :
    e o death pact tb!
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:30 PM) :
    não é, mas as outras abilidades deles são melhores, só isso
    Falcon_br (9:31 PM) :
    ultimo nivel de flame strike causando 120 de dano por segundo é foda!
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:31 PM) :
    flame strike está ruinzão, só serve pra destruir base mesmo, pq quem vai ficar 5 segundos tomando fogo na cara?
    Falcon_br (9:32 PM) :
    scout tower custando 30/20?
    hehehe, agora o jogo ganhou muro!
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:32 PM) :
    onde vc viu isso?
    Falcon_br (9:32 PM) :
    abomination com cannibalize é massa!
    Falcon_br (9:32 PM) :
    Scout Towers now cost 30/20, down from 70/20

    VLaD Bin Laden (9:32 PM) :
    eita porra
    Falcon_br (9:33 PM) :
    Note that Statues no longer have Aura of Blight, Absorb Mana, or Replenish
    q merda!
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:33 PM) :
    a estátua mudou completamente
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:34 PM) :
    já volto
    Falcon_br (9:34 PM) :
    orc tb!
    Falcon_br (9:35 PM) :
    - Watch Towers now have Light armor, build more quickly, and cost 110/80
    down from 155/80
    deixaram tower rush melhor, hehehe
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:39 PM) :
    mas é light armor
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:39 PM) :
    dá pra destruir mais fácil
    Falcon_br (9:45 PM) :
    até la o cara so tem o hero q causa dano normal nas torres!
    VLaD Bin Laden (9:46 PM) :
    nada a ver, tem unidade melee tb
    Falcon_br (9:46 PM) :
    sei lá, a barracks ta custando mais e o lumber mill não!!!

    Isso foi so uma discurção básica minha no icq sobre o patch, ainda tenho q testa-lo!

  5. #4
    Oct 2001

    foi uma discussao, e nao 'discursão'
    e o bug da naga eh irritante
    alias, ghoul nao tem vez com ela
    num 2x2, tinha 2 naga e 1 fs
    mataram os ghoul direto, nem deu pra arranhar grunt com eles
    naga alem de bugada eh mto over
    eu ainda acho q 200% de dano magico em cima de medium armor eh muito
    e o piercing 200% em heavy deu boost nas wyverns ahuahuahu
    sem kerer a blizzard deixou wyvern lustada > bat pra bater em aereos
    mudou muito, eu de undead to perdido uhahauhau
    mas de orc a mistureba de grunt doc e hh funciona bem

  6. #5
    Autor do tópico
    Dec 2001

    wyvern causa deno mágico...

  7. #6
    Autor do tópico
    Dec 2001

    o q é 2 naga? o novo heroi? qual o bug q ele tem?
    No 303 tinha um bug muito massa de controlar creeps level 10 com o poder do dark ranger, se não concertaram ele eu vou continuar usando, hehehe
    Era massa pegar a tartaruga level 10, dava pra sair nadando com ela no mapa!!!

  8. #7
    Oct 2001

    wyv eh piercing =D
    bat tb
    eu fiz eles num ffa hohoho
    só wyrm e grifo q foi pra magico, acho
    nao vi todos ainda
    '2 naga' eh pq cada um pegou uma naga de heroi, ai ficou 2 nagas pro time deles =P
    bug da naga = ela nao tem som, o mana shield tem trocentos bugs, e voce pode pegar ela de segundo heroi no tier 1

    ah sim, pra nao ter confusao
    wyv = wyvern = orcs = dano piercing
    wyrm = frost wyrm = undead = dano magico

  9. #8
    Nov 2002

    Com a Naga tb dá pra nadar =]

  10. #9
    Jul 2002

    n tenho a exp mesmo

  11. #10
    Nov 2002

    Originalmente enviada por *K!LL4*
    n tenho a exp mesmo

  12. #11
    Nov 2001

    Q wyvern gente vc tao fumando ?
    eh frost wyrm

  13. #12
    Dec 2000

    do que vcs tao falando?? mudo o que, onde e como??? heheh

  14. #13
    Oct 2000

    Po, eu nao tive saco de ler as atualizacoes, vou ver se eu lei mais tarde. Eu tb nao cheguei a jogar o beta, mas tem umas coisas q eu acharia maneiro q mudassem no war3.
    1- Tinha q ter uma parada pra desincentivar rush de hero
    2- Tinha q ter uma parada pra pros jogadores se atacarem mais, ao inves de ficar crepando. Pra mim nao tinha nem q ter creep.

    Off-Topic: Ae Kamikaze, irada a sua signature, essa do foco no problea e solucao. Eu ja tinha lido isso mas nao lembrava

  15. #14
    Oct 2001

    Originalmente enviada por Ch4kal
    Q wyvern gente vc tao fumando ?
    eh frost wyrm
    eu nao to fumando nada, mas o q voce tah fumando eh do bom hein
    vou explicar:
    pega orc
    faz lumber mill
    faz peao
    pega madeira e ouro
    dah up no hall
    faz bestiary
    dah up no hall denovo
    VOILA, voce pode treinar WYVERNS, montadas por um atirador de lanças orc, q usa uma touca parecida com uma cabeça de águia
    tem 600 de hp no FT beta 304, 500 no war 3 1.05
    pode receber o up de envenomed spears, up de unit armor e de ranged attacks, os quais voce pesquisa no war mill

  16. #15
    Dec 2000

    Originalmente enviada por Jonny Gordo
    Po, eu nao tive saco de ler as atualizacoes, vou ver se eu lei mais tarde. Eu tb nao cheguei a jogar o beta, mas tem umas coisas q eu acharia maneiro q mudassem no war3.
    1- Tinha q ter uma parada pra desincentivar rush de hero
    2- Tinha q ter uma parada pra pros jogadores se atacarem mais, ao inves de ficar crepando. Pra mim nao tinha nem q ter creep.

    Off-Topic: Ae Kamikaze, irada a sua signature, essa do foco no problea e solucao. Eu ja tinha lido isso mas nao lembrava

    valeu ae!! =]

  17. #16
    Jul 2002

    só vo joga a exp quando lança a original mesmo...

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